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		<title>By: Mrs. Oliveira</title>
		<link>http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2009/07/06/but-some-men-lust-after-nuns/comment-page-1/#comment-14154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Oliveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey it makes it a link all by itself! Now I don&#039;t feel so technically challenged!</description>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Oliveira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Oliveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was browsing the internet and came across the modesty survey http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/ Forgive me but I do not know how to add links to comments. Its a 148 question survey created by Christian girls. Over 1,600 
Christian guys 12 and older responded. Its very interesting to see what they guys have to say about modesty. If you could please forward this to &quot;Quincy&quot; this may help answer some of her questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was browsing the internet and came across the modesty survey <a href="http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/" rel="nofollow">http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/</a> Forgive me but I do not know how to add links to comments. Its a 148 question survey created by Christian girls. Over 1,600<br />
Christian guys 12 and older responded. Its very interesting to see what they guys have to say about modesty. If you could please forward this to &#8220;Quincy&#8221; this may help answer some of her questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquie Olsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacquie Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  I just read your post from At the Well and then jumped over to your site.  (I did not see any other means to contact you besides this.)  You have great writing skills and I love your topics being so significant.    I would so love to talk with you about some issues I am experiencing that are frankly a little too painful and embarrassing to discuss here.  If you are willing, would you please e-mail me and let me know another means to contact you.  I could really use a listening and understanding ear, as well as some great Christian advice.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  I just read your post from At the Well and then jumped over to your site.  (I did not see any other means to contact you besides this.)  You have great writing skills and I love your topics being so significant.    I would so love to talk with you about some issues I am experiencing that are frankly a little too painful and embarrassing to discuss here.  If you are willing, would you please e-mail me and let me know another means to contact you.  I could really use a listening and understanding ear, as well as some great Christian advice.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Parunak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Parunak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quincy,

Thanks so much for your follow up comment. You ask great questions!

I absolutely do not believe that it&#039;s wrong to be pretty. It is feminine to be pretty, and God clearly wants women to look feminine (otherwise, He wouldn&#039;t have written Deuteronomy 22:5). We don&#039;t want to get overly concerned with our physical appearance, of course (that would be showy, not modest), but looking clean, sweet, and pretty seems to me to be an excellent goal. 

I honestly can&#039;t tell you whether or not your clothes are modest because I don&#039;t know how you look in them. For that you&#039;ll need wise, godly counsel from someone who can actually evaluate you physically (preferably someone who&#039;s been married for a while, so she has some experience with how men think). Questions to ask are, &quot;Do I look pretty and sweet, or do I look hot?&quot; Where does this outfit draw your eye: my face, or someplace else?&quot; &quot;Do these clothes overly accentuate anything sexual?&quot; You can ask yourself those same questions when you&#039;re getting dressed.

I hope this helps a little. Modesty is so difficult because it isn&#039;t cut and dried. Every woman&#039;s body is different, and every garment is just a bit different in cut and fabric, so all but the most general rules are just about useless.

Modesty starts out as a condition of the heart. It is lived out every day in constant evaluation and re-evaluation of both our dress and behavior as we seek to help keep people&#039;s focus on the Lord, and not on us.

A couple of other posts that I&#039;ve written on this topic that you might enjoy are:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2008/09/14/cooking-chicken-for-your-600-pound-uncle-or-do-you-wear-skirts-all-the-time/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cooking Chicken for Your 600 Pound Uncle, or &quot;Do You Wear Skirts All the Time?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2008/07/20/the-spanish-dancer-and-the-duck/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Spanish Dancer and the Duck&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quincy,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your follow up comment. You ask great questions!</p>
<p>I absolutely do not believe that it&#8217;s wrong to be pretty. It is feminine to be pretty, and God clearly wants women to look feminine (otherwise, He wouldn&#8217;t have written Deuteronomy 22:5). We don&#8217;t want to get overly concerned with our physical appearance, of course (that would be showy, not modest), but looking clean, sweet, and pretty seems to me to be an excellent goal. </p>
<p>I honestly can&#8217;t tell you whether or not your clothes are modest because I don&#8217;t know how you look in them. For that you&#8217;ll need wise, godly counsel from someone who can actually evaluate you physically (preferably someone who&#8217;s been married for a while, so she has some experience with how men think). Questions to ask are, &#8220;Do I look pretty and sweet, or do I look hot?&#8221; Where does this outfit draw your eye: my face, or someplace else?&#8221; &#8220;Do these clothes overly accentuate anything sexual?&#8221; You can ask yourself those same questions when you&#8217;re getting dressed.</p>
<p>I hope this helps a little. Modesty is so difficult because it isn&#8217;t cut and dried. Every woman&#8217;s body is different, and every garment is just a bit different in cut and fabric, so all but the most general rules are just about useless.</p>
<p>Modesty starts out as a condition of the heart. It is lived out every day in constant evaluation and re-evaluation of both our dress and behavior as we seek to help keep people&#8217;s focus on the Lord, and not on us.</p>
<p>A couple of other posts that I&#8217;ve written on this topic that you might enjoy are:<br />
<a href="http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2008/09/14/cooking-chicken-for-your-600-pound-uncle-or-do-you-wear-skirts-all-the-time/" rel="nofollow">Cooking Chicken for Your 600 Pound Uncle, or &#8220;Do You Wear Skirts All the Time?&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2008/07/20/the-spanish-dancer-and-the-duck/" rel="nofollow">The Spanish Dancer and the Duck</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim from Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim from Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great answer to the comment.  Eliminating specific types of attire for the sake of modesty can be easy (i.e. no cleavage or micro mini-skirts) - as far as when we choose attire that can be defined as modest, it is important to look at our attitudes/behaviour, too.  Sometimes, regardless of what we are wearing, our behaviour with men can be immodest.

The final self-examination has to be of our heart.  You can be covered as well as a nun and still act like a harlot.  You can package it up in pretty paper, but it can still be trash inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great answer to the comment.  Eliminating specific types of attire for the sake of modesty can be easy (i.e. no cleavage or micro mini-skirts) &#8211; as far as when we choose attire that can be defined as modest, it is important to look at our attitudes/behaviour, too.  Sometimes, regardless of what we are wearing, our behaviour with men can be immodest.</p>
<p>The final self-examination has to be of our heart.  You can be covered as well as a nun and still act like a harlot.  You can package it up in pretty paper, but it can still be trash inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Parunak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Parunak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Organizing Mommy,

You can&#039;t always tell when you&#039;re being mentally undressed (in fact, I&#039;d wager that you usually can&#039;t), but this guy was over the top. He insisted on standing 10 inches away at all times, even when I moved. He kept staring at me, keeping up inane small talk, that kind of thing. 

And yes, there are a lot of guys who mentally undress everyone, or nearly everyone, even some Christian guys. I personally know some who are recovering from lust as a lifestyle, and some who are still confused about it and are thinking it probably isn&#039;t wrong. Understanding their stories is one of the reasons I&#039;m so passionate about helping men who are struggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organizing Mommy,</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t always tell when you&#8217;re being mentally undressed (in fact, I&#8217;d wager that you usually can&#8217;t), but this guy was over the top. He insisted on standing 10 inches away at all times, even when I moved. He kept staring at me, keeping up inane small talk, that kind of thing. </p>
<p>And yes, there are a lot of guys who mentally undress everyone, or nearly everyone, even some Christian guys. I personally know some who are recovering from lust as a lifestyle, and some who are still confused about it and are thinking it probably isn&#8217;t wrong. Understanding their stories is one of the reasons I&#8217;m so passionate about helping men who are struggling.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy M</title>
		<link>http://parunak.com/pursuingtitus2/2009/07/06/but-some-men-lust-after-nuns/comment-page-1/#comment-14097</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. P
Thanks so much for answering my question! It does make sense, the way you explained it. But, it it wrong to be pretty? Is there away  to look nice without being immodest? Stylish even? I favor tea length dresses with little jackets. I think they are cute and modest and I feel nice in them.  I wonder, is that bad? Should I be even more reserved? 
It sounds like the object is to cover up our best parts and while I certainly don&#039;t want other men looking at my naked body, I am a woman. I can&#039;t help that. I don&#039;t want to not look like one or be forced  to wear Muslim style complete cover ups. 
Sorry to pester you. I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t have all the answers, but you&#039;ve clearly really put some thought in this and it doesn&#039;t feel like legalism--all women do x. Thanks for you time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. P<br />
Thanks so much for answering my question! It does make sense, the way you explained it. But, it it wrong to be pretty? Is there away  to look nice without being immodest? Stylish even? I favor tea length dresses with little jackets. I think they are cute and modest and I feel nice in them.  I wonder, is that bad? Should I be even more reserved?<br />
It sounds like the object is to cover up our best parts and while I certainly don&#8217;t want other men looking at my naked body, I am a woman. I can&#8217;t help that. I don&#8217;t want to not look like one or be forced  to wear Muslim style complete cover ups.<br />
Sorry to pester you. I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t have all the answers, but you&#8217;ve clearly really put some thought in this and it doesn&#8217;t feel like legalism&#8211;all women do x. Thanks for you time.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent!  Thank you for sharing your teaching gift to help us all better grapple with the decisions we must make every day simply picking out clothes to wear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent!  Thank you for sharing your teaching gift to help us all better grapple with the decisions we must make every day simply picking out clothes to wear.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Anna T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Anna T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post about modesty. Yes we cannot prevent all lust but we can help the 95% of reasonable, normal men out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post about modesty. Yes we cannot prevent all lust but we can help the 95% of reasonable, normal men out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Organizing MOmmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Organizing MOmmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would you know that some guy was mentally undressing you?  Do these kind of guys do this to everyone?  I have never noticed anyone doing that to me. I think I would hit them over the head if I did notice, though.  Is this normal?  Maybe you are just prettier than most.  People tell me that I remind them of their mother (even guys) so I&#039;m not sure that they are searching for the goods when they say that.  How can I be 40 and so naive??  Either way, thanks for the advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you know that some guy was mentally undressing you?  Do these kind of guys do this to everyone?  I have never noticed anyone doing that to me. I think I would hit them over the head if I did notice, though.  Is this normal?  Maybe you are just prettier than most.  People tell me that I remind them of their mother (even guys) so I&#8217;m not sure that they are searching for the goods when they say that.  How can I be 40 and so naive??  Either way, thanks for the advice.</p>
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